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Trust me, if you show someone unconditional love, it will change their heart. Even if it takes years. I don't think anything was being forced. Nothing at all, beside the fact that she slapped him.

Yes, she has the right to not have the child, but be also has the right to leave. Sure, it might seem like a dick move, and to some It's a dick move for Judy to not have the child.

All in all, it's fake, and no one in the comic is wrong except for the assault. How the fuck is she in the right?

She is killing their child! Abortion is a terrible thing to do unless you've been raped. End of story. If you don't want a child than take fucking precautions don't fucking kill a child because you made a "mistake" or a "bad choice".

Pro choice people make me sick. Kenni Rayne… Are you serious? You say that Nick thinks that Judy is so selfish for not wanting the baby.

She is willing to give up her baby for her job. Second, who the hell said that he is controlling what she can do with her body? I didn't see Nick force her to have the baby.

I didn't see him physically abusing her. He gave her a choice, she could keep the baby and stay with Nick with a chance at losing her job or She could abort the baby, keep her job, but lose Nick that could be forever.

She obviously picked wrong. Third of all, You think that Nick didn't care about her concerns. If he didn't care about her concerns, I'm pretty sure that Judy wouldn't have told him.

Nick even asked why she didn't do it behind his back. You need to open your eyes and double check your answers. It's a basic that everyone learned in school.

But then look at it this way, you know sex will bring a child if percautions arent taken, so why do people risk it?

I feel like they should at least take precautions instead of killing off a new life everytime you want to have unprotected sex. A life is just too precious for it to just be whisked away like its nothing.

Like nick said in the web comic, people are born into this world for a reason. That aborted child could have changed so many lives, but because of abortion, didnt have that chance.

Even if a woman was raped by someone and got pregnant, that child has nothing to do with what situation she went through. A life is too precious to be thrown away like trash….

For the person who said something about the other interspecies births. Ligers and Mules are examples.

Its one persons way of talking about a real issis. Thats all. If you agree then whatever, if you dont then whatever. Stop using the internet just to fight all thw Damn time.

God I hate this world. Tell me, why should he stay with her? And yes, it is her body. But what about his feelings? No, screw that. You people astonish me with how ridiculous you are.

He is a man that has his heart broken because of her which was HER CHOICE which she still had every right to do because, even though he is the father to that baby, he physically cannot make the call on what happens to it since he has no control over the situation other than mentally.

He has every right to be upset with her and leave her for literally taking the one thing away from BOTH of them that would have changed both their lives, for better or for worse, without even talking about it with him.

Her mind was already made up. This is a real life scenario that absolutely bugs the dog-piss out of me.

Women always thinking that the man has no say on the matter and expect him to just accept it and support it. Being the outcome of this comic.

It was a 2-way street here, and they are both to blame, and both equally entitled to their actions. God bless. Even though this is a comic, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen often.

He does not agree to murdering an unborn child. He had every right to walk out. She chooses her career over her family or giving the baby a chance to live.

There are alot of people who have sucessful careers and have children. This is a close second to Judy is dead as in 1 Judy is dead 2 I will survive And 3 …..

Well let's see what's next. If you remove the Zootopia characters and replace it with real people, you've got a damn good story.

I regret seeing this comment. MY friend who usually finds the weirdest stuff sent me this. I thought "wtf" and clicked on this.

Now i gotta check it out. I have truly reached the deep and dark pit of psycho fandom. My friend sent me a link to this comic, I decided ill check it out.

I have fully regretted it. This comic has ruined such a great movie. You took the two main characters who werent that bad and just full on made them not so lovable.

One wants an abortion and the other leaves just because. Thank you sir. I'm impressed that ZNN featured this! Not that it doesn't deserve the feature, but this comic has had the tendency to make people quite vehement in their opinions.

I'm glad that possibility seems to have been embraced by ZNN, to be honest. Did I like the comic? No I did not. I've previously given a thorough critique on it regarding where I think it needs improvement.

That said, I want to repost something I posted in the discussion on DeviantArt:. It's why I stayed for the whole comic, despite feeling like it may have needed some extra work.

I didn't disagree with the concept, or even the sad result — that's totally up to the artist — but rather with how it was pulled off.

Just because I may not like the comic, it doesn't mean I can't respect the artist for it. I hope you can see that too. To others: I hope you can find it within you to give Borba some credit, too.

This whole thing has been very heated. Granted, that may have been expected given the particular focus of the comic. WildeHopps shipper or not, pro-life or pro-choice, I hope you can agree that we're all here to enjoy the Zootopia material in our own way.

It's what makes us fans. Borba has enjoyed it in his own way, and there are plenty out there who actually liked the comic.

You or I may not be in that group, but it doesn't mean we should all ruin each-other's enjoyment by fighting about it. Props to you for taking a level-headed approach to all of this, you're one of the very few people who didn't like the comic to do this most others I've read are all "it's all awful, borba is terrible" etc etc.

And props to borba for taking his idea and sticking with it through thick and thin, through the positive and negative feedback. I got props from Jesus Christ for writing something on the internet six months ago regarding a fan-made comic about a cartoon animal movie.

I agree, I just think the plot lacked tact and accurate portrayal, although I respect the opinions.

Most realistic story I've encountered featuring Zootopia in a while. Artist needs more support for doing this. He never had the time to get any brain cells :?

Good comic and congralutations to William Borba by take a complicated theme and that only the persons that they want to have son and have a family think twice before of make it, because is a decision that can be a blessing or a curse depending of how do you feel ready you are of take of a decision that you'll carry the weight of it the rest of your live and the people that they have parents means the diffcult that is having a son and specially when you need to find a equilibrum between your familiy and your jobs, thing that isn't easy of take a decision and these is that Judy and Nick showed in this comic that the pro-life and pro-choice postures shock and so much that is difficulty that the discussion can have a happy ending as showed in this comic.

Boy oh boy do I hate this story… love the work just hate the story keep it up borbas you may reach Meads level soon cuz this didn't even tear me up JID did so shoot for da stars.

Oh yea, what about her "Try Everything" kind of live? What a tough choice. Because of that kind of live Judy become like these…. This story could and should have been amazing.

A well eritten break up with a difficult subject like abortion thrown in the mix not necessarily this specifically is something Inwould be interested in reading.

This was not. I had appreciated it focusing on the emotional burden of the subject matter without bringing up the politics or religion, but Nick's "premidated sin" line undid that, and it was the one genuinely positive thing I'd had to say about the story up to that point.

It was an angsty for the sake of it and poorly characterised. Judy is so fundamentally out of character that I wonder just what's happened between the film and this comic to make her become so utterly unempathetic.

If this had focused on her health concerns and fear for the child's well being I might have bought into it, but her particular emphasis on her career over her ideals made her seem selfish, and it felt contrived to boot.

There's a similar problem with Nick as well. Instead of focusing on his need to be the father he never got to have, he seems more focused on being judgemental towards Judy.

And his dialogue at the end of page 19 is especially hammy, given how seriouly the story is taking itself throughout. Definitely should have been about two OC's and honestly?

It needed to be longer because in real time this really was just 20 minutes to half an hour, like a soap opera episode on fast forward. This was my opinion as well, which is why I choose to give high respect to the author despite not liking the comic.

Most authors wouldn't have even attempted such material! That said, I'm like you in that I think this particular portrayal needs some work.

The way I previously put it was like this:. Most fanfiction is inherently out-of-character simply by evolving the characters past where they were in the movie; when the character is changed organically or not , they become OOC.

The trick as an author is to make your OOC interpretation make sense. I think the reason many have issue with this particular interpretation is due to three issues: Lack of setup, choice of dialogue, and consistency.

Let me explain. That setup is basically the author saying "look, I know this isn't exactly official, but work with me here". Setup allows the audience to see the characters they love somewhere within the OOC interpretation, connecting to them!

One of the main problems with Borba's comic is that we're plopped right into this mess without any point of reference OTHER than the movie. Thus the OOC moments become unacceptable and we no longer recognize the characters.

Example: Judy says "I did everything for my career" when, in the movie, she literally gives up her career at one point.

I see that perhaps Borba may have wanted to convey that message, but the dialogue makes it fall flat. Neither of them really appear to have ANY doubts or conflictions regarding their opinions, and both often sound like their lines are taken straight from protestor signs.

This takes the focus away from the characters and the reality I think Borba was going for. You can't tackle a gray area when the characters refuse to be gray.

Nit-picky example: Judy finds it necessary to roughly wake Nick up, but then waits for him to take a shower? She asks to talk before and after the argument, yet essentially tells him there's nothing to talk about.

Nick goes on an emotional rollercoaster where he tells Judy "I thought I knew you but I was wrong", yet somehow later goes on a rant explaining what a great mammal she is hasn't his image of her already been horribly crushed?

Some of this can be explained with the fact that people aren't rational or consistent when emotionally stressed, but… when mixed with the Setup and Dialogue issues, it makes it too difficult to be attached to the characters.

It feels all over the place. I honestly think there's enough evidence in their characterizations in the movie that you could spin these characters the way Borba has.

Nick being religious, for example, isn't actually a farfetched spin on his character. As such, I'm sad he's been given flak for the subject material and his chosen result.

My only complaint is how improbable this is. While they were together, it should've come naturally all mention of having children.

Even saying they would adopt later would've turned this differently. Nick shouldn't be surprised to find she's focused on her career.

Not quite. Surrika's review of "The Confusing Success of Zootopia" has over 70 comments. Still, very impressive. Unless you're talking about longest singular comment, referring to my wall-of-text.

In which case I wouldn't be surprised if you were right! I may have gotten carried away. Hahaha no need to sorry, i enjoy reading your thoughts lol.

And u r right, I meant the longest singular comment. I wasn't sure what words to use since im not english xD. You balance out us critics!

Good for you for speaking up! The things people will create to try and push their agendas, to then not even present a decent portrayal of the subject matter.

Oh yeah this one is controversial; I've counted at least 5 different running debates slash-arguments on the media sources I use, and I'm sure that on the actual deviantart and tumblr pages it's even worse.

I like Borba for the art style he uses, the characters are well-drawn, and that he's willing to take on darker topics, but I'm throwing in my lot with those who say this could have been a whole lot better if set up and played out more realistically, and I honestly think if the characterization had been on point the conversation would have ended very, very differently for the two of them.

Judy's career-oriented, we know that, but her career is based on her drive to make the world, and others in it, better; combine that with what would undoubtedly be a strong familial influence on her having grown up in the household she did there's no way she'd end up throwing out a call like that, let alone shutting Nick down about it without giving his side of the conversation serious consideration.

Nick I could see more likely being the one who would be uncomfortable with the thought of a child to raise, especially if he was distant from his own parents and didn't believe himself a good role model for it, but being pulled along by Judy's optimism as he has he'd probably be more willing to take the chance just for her alone.

Altogether I definitely think other characters would have been better to portray a struggle like this, perhaps with a scene to link them to other Zootopia characters like Nick and Judy but different mammals in their own right because this is so beyond the style of the characters used that it couldn't possibly actually be the rabbit and fox we all know from the movie.

This is what I thought. That they have their views switched? Nick would be arguing that it might be a monster and he doesn't want to lose her.

And Judy saying how happy she is and everything will work out if they work hard enough. Honestly, I could see Judy and Nick in these portrayals — though I do agree, they are very exaggerated or at least, certain aspects are.

It also seems believable to me, considering how things went in the span of, like, 10 minutes. However, I like to think that, at some point, they would have calmed down enough to not let this happen, but at the same time, I have to applaud Borba for sticking to his guns, and not wussing out with any sort of happy ending.

I also appreciate one of the messages this comic conveys — that being that if you don't have open communication with your significant other and that could be applied, to a lesser extent, to any friends or family , it can blow up in your face eventually.

For a guy like me, where communication like that does not come naturally at all , this message is most definitely welcome.

Everyone said what I wanted to already. An unbalanced comic about different types of strawmen at different points in the comic, inconsistent characterization, horribly fumbled sociopolitical grandstanding that, oddly, can't decide where it wants to grandstand, soap opera levels of melodramatic cheese and nothing of any redeeming value beyond forced dramatic feelies.

It's moving for those who want to be moved by cheap sentimentalism. More power to you. Enjoy it heartily. Well my first thought is a job well done by the artist.

Truly well done. My second thought is that's going to be pretty awkward going into work the next day. The way I've looked at this is that the whole plot of the comic centering around Judy and Nick's arguments regarding abortion is a means to an end, and not the end itself.

I saw from about half-way through that this was not going to end well, and I guessed that the message of the comic was not simply about the rights and wrongs of pro-choice vs pro-life: instead, I knew the idea of the comic was that even the most strong relationship can break irreparably.

Do I agree with the way it was framed? Not entirely. It would have suited the story better if we had some background on how they got to this place.

On top of that, any number of things could have lead to a break-up of the two. It's not unprecedented, after all: it happens, right there in the second act of the movie.

I'm not sold on the presentation, but it is what it is. All in all, I commend borba for having the courage to sticking with his intentions even when a lot of hate was flung his way.

I love his other comics which are mostly comedies, for those of you who don't want to read this one but like the art and having done this, I can't wait to see him return to what he's really good at.

To be honest, I'm very grateful that borba has draw this comic with all of its controversial qualities. Not for the message or the art style, that can be varied depending on personal tastes, I don't care.

I want to talk about the impact it has on our fandom in general. I remembered he mention somewhere in one of his replies on Deviantart that the reason he was capable of testing out this type of storyline is: he believes in the positive nature of our fandom he has seen so far.

Or something like that, I forgot the details. Well, after this whole show, I'm not so sure. As a fandom, we Zootopia fans has always been proud of our "acceptance, understanding and peacefulness".

Then, borba decide to drop the "I will survive" bomb on us… and a not quite small war occured. It's fasinating to watch, frankly.

Shit-posting, bashing, name-calling, bullheadness, hateful words, etc. Suddenly, the peaceful and understanding fandom is not peaceful and understanding anymore.

For what? Or in this general case, a piece of well-intend but slightly poor-executed comic? What was the message of the film again?

Then look back at the way a large number of us commented on this comic and some nasty things has been and still being thrown at borba.

Maybe we haven't learned it well enough, have we? Usually I do my very best to not jump into such drama. I may have written a thorough critique of what I felt were the comic's issues, but I tried to do so with respect.

I can still appreciate Borba for his art, pacing, drama, and sheer guts. Thing is, I think the fandom is growing.

Which is great! But it also can make it unstable. Previous experience with other fandoms in their early stages has shown that "acceptance, understanding and peacefulness" has tended to weaken with greater size.

The greater variety of people and tastes, the greater chance for conflict to occur. That's just natural. Other "peaceful" fandoms have quickly grown toxic — a fate I would like to avoid here.

Which is why I've been making an effort to defend Borba, and to encourage those who liked to comic to speak up! As we progress forward, we all need to make a conscious decision to remember that there is no one correct way to enjoy our fandom.

Every fandom will have things you might not like: Angst, tragedy, crossovers, grimdark, erotica, cosplay… Many people would love any number of those, and many would despise them.

They're all different ways of expressing the fandom. I think the reason we as a fandom cry OOC when bad thing happen to these two but remain silent when they get together is because we see them grow closer to each other in the film, like when Judy learns that night howlers are flowers she goes to Nick for help despite being a police officer and he forgives her for wronging him, that's why we want to see them fall in love with each other, could you imagine how different thing would be if she went to Bogo for help?

It makes us happy to see them flourish and feel it necessary to get defensively aggressive when we have to consider that something this bad could happen to them.

I too don't like this comic, but I'm not going to try to make Borba feel bad for making it. Bummer, though i doubt that movie version of Judy would do this with her "try everything" style of life.

And with abortion and everything, i myself could have been aborted, but my mom and her family refused.

Still, i think that option should be here, we need more options, not less. And this is why I say kudos to those who didn't like the comic — yet had the sense to not attack borba for doing it.

Thank you for posting this here. It is always interesting to read comic, that is really different to other ones. I respect if you say some constructive criticism, that is totally normal, and good also.

But it doesn't need to be hated, because it is just different, for no other reason. If you don't like it, then criticist it respectfully and honestly to autor.

But not just hate it. For me, when i read it first time, it really drove me in to the story back then it was only to 16 pages only , but when i read it today, second time, i have to say, that something just wasn't right in the story for me.

But i respect borba, and don't hate this comic. This was the end of the comic; unless there was ever actually a sequel planned which the author does not appear to have prepared this is it.

You can extrapolate the events that follow however you may wish, but the next project the author has been working on is an entirely different storyline.

Well… I'm a fan of zootopian art and there's a lot of good stuff available, including right here. If I was to venture an opinion, as a pro lifer, this is very much an allegory on the way it is in our own world.

The scene could have even been shifted around easily enough with Nick not wanting the baby. Just saying. Foxes aren't that much better, at around 50 days.

But yes, artistic liberties and all that. How pathetic… I hate this version of Nick. No woman deserves to be abandoned for making an autonomous choice about her body.

Why not? There was an obvious conflict on a major issue, one sees it as a killing of their child, the other sees it as a medical procedure, such a large conflict of viewpoints can't just go away, especially on a topic such as this.

Please, set aside your pro choice beliefs for two seconds and realize that it isn't easy to get over something like this.

As a pro lifer, I can tell you it hurts us just as much add it hurts you maybe twice as much because to us, were are losing what could have been a baby.

I'm not saying we are right or wing, just that there ARE reasons to leave, and this is a very valid one. No man deserves to be forced into a relationship he won't be happy in.

Couples who want different things shouldn't be together. His body. His choice. This was in no way propaganda.

It showed both sides to the abortion argument, including many of the large ones for both sides. It may have a slight bias, but it isn't that large.

It's not bad per say but could've been handled better. Plus Nick was a lil OOC here. I don't think he'd necessarily be that harsh on her. Also, and this is just personal theory , I believe this was a heat-of-the-moment walk-out and Nick would try to re-connect with Judy sometime after and have further discussion abt it.

Mby this personal theory makes it less sad lol. General fan consensus tends to agree that this is bad, not just due to the message which, admittedly, was not very well-executed but also because both Nick and Judy are fairly OOC.

Borba has learned from this and is back to making more lighthearted and fun comics. Great to have a pro-life Zootopia comic but I'm not sure if this one was handled as well as it could have been.

Also maybe a bit to serious a topic for Zootopia. This is shit. Not on character. Not natural dialogue. Crappy pacing. It's like a fuckin' men's rights activist wrote a comic designed to just demonize women and make men the victims.

And that's pretty shit. Even if you ignore the fact that these are DISNEY characters talking about abortion and how cringe that is… Judy's in a potentially life-threatening situation and the comic is all about nick and his feelings and how judy is wrong for being concerned that a pregnancy from a fox might KILL her.

Her wants and needs don't matter apparently. She's evil for not wanting a kid? It's "pro-life" but her life doesn't matter?

He also chides her for being concerned over her career, but that's pretty easy for Nick to do since he will likely NEVER be expected to compromise his career for his kid the way he expects Judy to.

This comic is basically a man telling a woman what to do with her body and her life even if she might DIE from it, making it all about himself, and expecting us to take the man's side.

Sorry guys, but you don't get to make a medical choice on a woman's behalf just because you had sex with her. Your contribution was 5 minutes of pleasure, hers is 9 months of pain.

Not surprising this comic was written by a man and mostly sympathized with the feelings of the man and portrayed the woman as being in the wrong for being concerned for her own well-being.

That's not even taking into account how stupidly out of character they both are. Stop projecting your political views onto cartoon characters.

Anyway, why do they even need to be a couple in the first place? Can't we just go back to these two being just friends instead of turning it into a stupid romantic drama?

Sorry, but you need to understand that it was never about the woman. It isnt about the woman's right to get rid of the child, it's about the child's right to live.

The whole issue is over whether or not the child is alive during abortion, not about the woman's carrying of said child. Honestly, as a pro lifer, I wish there was a way to save the child and not force the mother to raise it which will happen eventually, it's already in the works , but until then, the mother would have to be the one to hold it.

Please, just understand this. Im not trying to have a debate over whether it's right or wrong, I'm just trying to tell you how we actually see it.

We aren't making it about ourselves, we are making it about the child. If she hit him that time she will most likely continue to abuse him.

I also believe that the father has every right to see their child born and if the mother hates the baby then the father should be allowed to have sole custody for life and the mother should NEVER be allowed to see or interact with the unloved child.

And that loving father can carry the baby for months himself, too, and have his genitals ripped open to accommodate birthing!

And won't she be jealous when complications lead to him dying of blood-loss! That'll show that ungrateful tart!

Oh wait…. You see, this is why im always wondering why there are only two sides to this arguement. Humans are supposed to solve problems.

A solution i propose would be researching into artificial wombs or looking for a way to transplant the embryo into another female.

But ive never even heard of this being proposed…. That was incredibly forced. One person finds it, labels the entire fandom as "pro-life conservatives" because of it then again it seems they think Zootopia's conservative propaganda.

Yeah, the message of the movie is going over more than the artist's head, and what's more is the comic is being used to tar the whole fandom. Just like a few savage predators were being used to tar the whole pred population in the film.

This did not need to be dragged back up. Oh, heck, the subreddit's going to be unbearable again…. Anortion topoc only brought up those issues… bit is not direct reason for breakup….

The end seems to be specifically made so people see what they want… some see that nick was right… some see that hudy was right and nick is asshole for leaving… I see an argument gettingout of hand and destroing love… it is all..

What a shame. Such artistic talent, and you waste it on propaganda that isn't even well done. Judy's argument is far better than Nick's and yet you have him framing it as a sin hastily at the end.

What a surprise though — grown men that keep trying to ruin cartoons that are meant for kids. It never fails. The entire point of this was that both sides had valid arguments to be made, meaning we all can side with one or the other.

I sided with Nick when he left, but that doesn't mean it was pro life. Better is subjective. In my personal opinion here the biggest miatake donebby characters here, was Judy saing that the job means everythibg… It she stuck with the worry about the complications of birth, and potential defects the hybrid might have… maybe with some medical support she could convince Bick to suppoer her decision, they would be able to work it out… but when she said that the carrer means everything to her, Nick in his confused and disappointed state, understood it as "My Job is most important, my carrer matter for me more than you, than your opinions, tmit means more to me than our love".

As if she said that their love is unimportant, we say how Nick reacted when she said that "predators are naturally savage" thing in movie… He took it as a blow to the face much worse than the actual slap she gave him… "She betrayed me, again, I do not matter.

If I the Job demanded she would have left me anyway… I am nothing but a distraction to her. It is not as much out of character as some comments seem to imply, he left, just as he left after that press conference… The actual issuse here was not just the fact that she was so Surely decided to abort… it was that she didn't even seem to think about Nick from his point of view.

That remark about keeping it secret beeing better. For him it was like she rubbed it in, that "she made a decision, and she is not changing it, and nothing je says matters".

For him it was once AGAIN like the scouts thing… and for Judy it was like her parentz telling her not to be a police officer… both had some issues, both were emotionally affected at that time… and it ended the way it did as a resault… some poor choice of words… some comments implying a wrong thing… and an ideological differences… this is how many relationships end in real life.

Sometimes, even after such clash, they might end up together again… but quite often it really is over… thay might request to be moved to digferent shifts and shedules at police, Nick might even request to be moved to to different district.

Sadly… this is often how true love ends…. Despite having some issues. I feel exactly the same way. I think it's unfair that Nick is the only one really being demonized in this whole thing.

I agree with Nick that it's like why did she even tell him in the first place if she was pretty much just gonna say "sorry!

My body, my choice and you don't get a say in this! People act like women are always the victims and fathers might as well be a piece of furniture.

Nothing like equating womens rights and abortion to racism. I like where shes worried the child might be a freak, which is a clear strike at women who chose abortion because the deformed featus, proven by medicine instead of blind faith, only has a future of pain and misery laid out before it.

Theres so much wrong logic and proreligious nonesense it detracts from what is more than decent art. Lol what kinda partner would leave the one they love bcs of of an unborn creature?

Well, hated the story, but Nick is drawn nicely so uh kudos to that…. Would have been better if Nick had eaten Judy for one, also my hot fan theory on this fan comic is that it was a false positive and she wasn't actually preggers it was all for nothing.

This actually was pretty good, Nick was really happy with Judy being pregnant with the baby. The author was good to throW in a real-life scenario of one wanting the baby and and the other not wanting a baby and the outcome some scenarios like this has relationships ending very quickly and others ending in different ways.

Was there an agenda being said… to me not really, it's just a "what if" scenario. I'm pretty sure the author already knows that he can't make everyone happy.

But for me, great story! Feels just like some propaganda material slapped in a comic. Perhaps would be more enjoyable even with the same idea a center, if the dialogues didn't sound taken from a pamphlet, and more like a genuine story.

Like this, it was impossible for me to sympathize with either, and the only emotion i felt was wanting it to end already.

The part when Nick suggests would have been better if kept in the dark makes no damn sense. Didn't enjoy this. At all. And apparently a lot of you didn't either.

All those who do are a shame to the fandom. Y'all really created a world where a rabbit fucked a fox and then gave them political opinions.

I have no particular in-depth knowledge on Zootopia other than the movie, but as someone who's passion is to study politics, I'd like to give my own take.

First off, I don't think it is necessarily appropriate for an artist, no less an adult, to be taking content obviously marketed to children and transforming easily accessed material that depicts such content in such a controversial and politically-motivated way.

Yes, the original comic is censored as mature content on Deviant Art, but it is still so easy to lie about age, especially when you know that minors are going to be actively searching for Zootopia through multiple platforms.

I think it is impressive that the artist would not just consider but actually tackled such a heated topic, especially the way they did.

I don't think it was wrong of them too, either, but where has been published immediately worries me. And while I can say that my attention was fully-grasped for the entire duration of the comic, it was for the wrong reasons.

A Judy the rabbit is demonized and shamed for wanting to forward her career, when this is already a real life problem that women face around the world, and the shallowness with which this point is considered is sad.

Women consistently make less then men in almost every work environment today, and face multiple obstacles to achieving financial stability, more so under the societal pressures to perform the archetypal role of a mother.

How is she to care for a child when she cannot forward her career? Instead of focusing on that facet of the debate, the artist quickly changes the problem to her progressive ideals, which was so out of character for Judy.

B Despite being a very obviously secular movie, clearly religious iconography, specifically Mother Mary, be-speckles the comic.

It is one thing to stimulate a good conversation, but another to use religion so controversially and nonchalantly.

The pontiff of the Catholic Church has begun to move towards more open policies of mothers and women who have undergone abortion procedures.

Religion has no place in government policy nor in children's content, under circumstances such as these.

C One thing this comic does achieve in a positive realm is bringing the perspective of men into the argument.

However, Nick's emotions and statements are so conflated between two extremes that it can be hardly perceived as realistic.

For him to just abandon Judy is a point, in and of itself, of the problems surrounding this debate. There is no sympathy or understanding for either side, and instead Nick plays the stock character role of what one might equate to a priest.

D This is not scientifically possible. The premise would have achieved much more success in impact had it been more realistic in all forms of the portrayal- and not amorphous animals.

Wow, not sure why so many pro-life people like this comic. It makes Nick look like a grade-A ass for one thing.

Also, if your story could be used as an allegory for an incest relationship then mabye you need to take another look at the plot.

Judy may be sad now but good fucking riddiance. Taking this kid too term would have eather killed her or made her damn kid some freek of science.

They would be lucky if the thing could even move. Though, that's why you glossed over that and made it about her job right? A shallow atempt at propaganda.

The only way to get people on your side is make up elaborate pitty storys that punnish people who don't side with you.

This is where sensationalist drivel like this belongs, in a fantasy cartoon land where nothing makes sense.

Only two creatures of the same species can successfully have a child that is able to reproduce. In a movie about a woman following her dreams, the internet has truly dragged her back "where she belongs" sarcasm.

This is a really good piece of art, that perfectly describe one of the XXI century's problems. This comic in my opinion is NOT a propaganda, and does not support any sides in this conflict — it's a debate between both sides, where we can see all pros and cons.

Look at the paradox of this topic. Right-wing pro-life people aka Nick , that base their decisions on logic, facts, statistics, are making a choice that is based fully on feelings, while left-wing pro-body people aka Judy , that base their decisions on feelings, compassion, are making a choice that is based fully on cold logic.

Of course, not every right wing is pro-life and every left wing is pro-body, but a huge majority are on the same page.

People, stop being blind. Stop generating an aggression to other people just for having different opinions. Right and left, are just different sides of the same coin.

Open your mind — listen to others arguments, build a constructive dialog, be ready to change your believes if you'll see that you were wrong. Being wrong isn't bad, your entire life won't dissolve if you will change your view at it.

To the author: I don't know if you'll ever read this, but if you do — please, make a continuation or a series out of such topics.

Continuation would be lovely, but oh well, its your choice. I wish you people would stop using Zootopia to dramatize political and rough topics.

Make your own characters if you want to tell a story like this. In the end all you did was get turned into a meme and bring attention negatively to the fanbase and franchise.

Which could make Disney decide to give up on future projects like a second film. Stop being creepy ass furries.

Just fucking leave a good thing alone. I agree that this is nothing but furry weirdness tho. It literally goes "I need to tell you something" "ok" "I'm pregnant" "I love you!

This comic was drama filled sure, but not great. Both sides have thier holes in the argument and with sides have thier moments of being assholish.

There was no rights, no compromise, just all wrongs. This comic felt like it was written for the express purpose to pull at heart strings, not actual story telling.

So glad the comic didn't make the woman out to be the bad person and shame her. Oh wait, that's exactly what it did.

It took no consideration for the life changes that would happen that she's not ready for. Not to mention, Nick is a selfish, lazy jerk.

He would definitely not be helpful if she had the baby. If he walks out that easily on her now, imagine once there is a child to be responsible for.

She'd end up yet another single mother due to a deadbeat who is selfish and only thinking of himself. I loved this. Yeah, a guy's reactions could go either way.

A woman's decision to be honest could go either way. This was just one of a myriad ways it could turn out, so it's not 'shit'. It's honest and stark.

Now, for ME, I think Nick is in the wrong. He isn't thinking about what he's asking of her, what he's asking her to risk. HE takes no risk whatsoever in going forward..

If he really loves her, he'll finally realize this and go back. If not, she made the right decision, anyway. Oh my God..

I'm almost in tears!! This was the funniest fuckin comic ive read in ages. The macabre yet familiar reality reflected in this comic.

Wow Just. This comic was so bad it gave me ptsd flashbacks back to the abortion clinic where i almost didnt make it.

This is som pretty hecked up stuff and whoever made it needs seriouse mental help. This is prove that there is no God. This is prove that there is no meaning to life and that once we die we simply fall into a deep dark nothingness.

LMAO omg this has got to be one f the most hilarious and shitty things I have ever seen. If there are people who actually take this seriously and are amazed by it or sad then… Wow… But it gave me a good laugh.

How you think that child is gonna go through life being in their own category? Let alone Nick having to support both Judy and a baby no one in history will know what medical or behaviors issues that might pop up raising the child.

This made me sad Nick and Judy were amazing together and I hope they get back and figure this out regardless. Everything I think about this has already been said.

But gotta give credit to the author for the artwork, which is pretty fantastic. Good meme material as well.

Go on now, go walk out the door Just turn around now 'Cause you're not welcome anymore Weren't you the one who tried to break me with goodbye?

Did you think I'd crumble? Did you think I'd lay down and die? Oh no not I, I will survive. Argument invalid, they're different species completely.

Would've been a miscarriage or could kill Judy or they would've had a mutant baby, she was in the right. The slap was out of nowhere and absolutely stupid, and just a horrible, manipulative sympathy piece for Nick.

Religion is literally nowhere in the film. Style was great. Fuck this artist. He made Nick into an utter asshole who cared more about an unborn mutant baby than his loving wife who was honest enough to communicate this with him.

It doesn't matter if you think it was "out of nowhere" and "completely stupid". She hit him. She's not a loving wife. She's abusive. She hits him and tries to excuse it as losing her temper.

She hit him hard enough to knock him down and leave scratch marks. No excuses. He was right to leave. She didn't really want to talk- she just wanted to fight.

This was hard to see, Judy was totally out of character and a total asshole… I mean, if it was her "decision" to abort, then Nick had the same righ to "decide" to leave, decisions have consequences, and sometimes they can be terrible… anyways this reminds me another zootopia comic where Judy is pregnant and gives birth to four hybrid babies, it was a lot better than this one.

Nick was totally out of character and an asshole too. He was a hussler on the streets practically lying to innocent people for money with 0 guilt and suddenly he's religious, scolding Judy about sin.

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